I think the only guide to date about Vietnam on the blog is when pmmp took his one and only trip outside of suk soi 4. He went to HCMC or Saigon and did quite the detailed write-up on it. You can find that here. I was coming off a week in Jakarta, stopover in Sing and then over to HCMC, Hanoi and back to HCMC. There is other information on this blog about Hanoi as well.
Having spent some time now all over SEA it is very easy to get used to Thailand. Say what you will, people bitching about scams aside, Thailand is one of the best spots in the world for ease of living. The mongering scene is also the best bar none. About the only thing I can ding Thailand for is the lame duck government, the waning service levels and the terrible internet infrastructure. Cabs are cheap, food is great, girls are plentiful and the p4p scene, although lacking variety, is tops. That’s just the way it is.
However it is always nice to get out and see how the other half lives. Unfortunately Vietnam is part of the nation of horns alliance which means that just being in Vietnam slightly irritates me. They freaking use their horn for no apparent reason whatsoever, they seem to not respect personal space and they throw their trash around. Reminds me too much of China – but the place is fun, the food is great and there are hotties all over the place. However the attitude is tough – they just don’t seem to have that same ease of use one gets used to from Thailand and Indonesia.
For those who travel to Sing and visit the FFOW – you will have noticed many of the freelancer bars are packed with Viets. They tend to be the hottest girls in the place. Not always the best looking faces but great bodies, awesome tits and dress like sophisticated sluts. I love it but ask anyone with experience dealing with them and you mostly hear they have rotten attitudes, demand money upfront and tend to leave you wishing you had not taken them. I would say that sums up my experience with mongering in Vietnam. They are hot, but they tend to mostly let you down.
Unless someone can point me to a great place that would allow me to have an open mind and see something I have yet to see my take is Vietnam is just pretty lame for mongering. The prices are not cheap and with the Dong continuing its freefall they love to quote you in dollars and then pretend that if you do pay in Dong that you get 20k dong to a dollar. A little creative whore math that is just another part of their overall scamming culture. I must have fallen in love with many of the normal girls I saw around town but for the most part I have no interest in them.
For the one night in HCM city I went straight to bar 49 and 51. Everyone knows where they are and seem to be the go to hostess bars but after talking to some plugged in party guys who are from HCMC – they say these are the low end ones. They are right next to each other and the guys outside the door will try to drag you in – I always HATE guys on the door. Just gives you a bad feeling about the place. They are similar bars with pool tables, full of girls and the overbearing mamasans. Drinks set you back 4-5USD for either your drinks or a ladies. They play pool and bet you money they win and if they lose they get naked. Most suck at pool so I had a few of them naked. Which was fun.
I should have just left it at that but once I was drunk and saw this one girl’s perfect breasts I started thinking blowie. I think she quoted 500,000 VND or something. I went for it. She was good but during my blowie, I found her rifling through my pockets and wallet. So I had to grab her hands and keep her focused. I have been to Lolitas maybe 1000 times and I have never had a girl try to steal mid session. To me this is just the core difference between places like VN and Thailand.
Anyway she kept going and when I was about to blow she pulled off and let it go on a towel. Oh well. I zipped up and went to pay my bill. Then I noticed another 250k on the bill apart from my drinks. I was like what is this for and the mamasan said it was some lady charge. The thing I HATE about VN is when they pull this type of shit – you feel little recourse to do anything cause you fear them turning you in. I paid and left but with no plans to return. At the end of the day places like this have this we don’t care if you return attitude and it show.
I was told the better hostess bars are one step up and called 13 and smiley bar. I have yet to check them out. More on that later!
On another night I was coming back from Apocalypse Now, great club btw, and a motorcycle guy took me to some pseudo brothel. I was wound up and went for it. Kind of shady but the girls were nice. Short time was 800k including the room but the girl begged for more. She was fun and I tipped a bit but all in all you feel overcharged at every point.
There are cool places to eat and drink all over town though. One night we at Sushi-bito – 62 ngo duc ke street. A VN guy with a cool little Japanese enclave. Great food, extreme value, super saki and awesome service. This is where places like HCMC really shine in my opinion. Next door is a cool bar called Red Drum, nothing to do with the movie, that has good drinks, fun girls and good value. No take out here but a fun place to drink and hang. I have been chatting with a bartender from here but her english sucks. Cracking body though.
At the end of this series I will put in a bunch of venue notes I have gathered from others just in case people have comments or suggestions.
If people know of better hostess bars or a massage scene that really delivers I am all ears.